Waiting lists apology and cost of living in S4C Senedd election debate

First Minister Eluned Morgan has apologised to patients in Wales facing lengthy waits for NHS treatment. She was challenged to "say sorry" by an audience member in a live TV election debate. Figures published earlier on Thursday show Ms Morgan's government has failed to meet its own targets for bringing waits down. During the debate from S4C's headquarters in Carmarthen, Morgan was challenged by a member of the audience who spoke about a friend who has waited "five years" for hip treatment. "He doesn't have a penny to go private and it's painful, terribly painful. will you say 'sorry'?" Morgan said she accepted there were "problems" and said waiting lists had increased during the Covid pandemic. When challenged further, the Welsh Labour leader said: "Of course I'm willing to apologise, I'm very sorry to hear that." "I'm happy to say sorry, it touches me and I feel it strongly because he's not the only one." The leader of Plaid Cymru was challenged on the cost of one of his party's main policies, expanding childcare provision in Wales. Rhun ap Iorwerth said the policy would cost an extra £400m a year by the final year of the next Senedd, but has not provided details on how it would